Who pastors the pastors? What if every pastor had someone walking alongside them — helping them grow, lead well, and stay spiritually healthy? In this podcast, host Kylah sits down with Rob Hurkmans and Beth Benson to unpack the power of clergy coaching — what it is, why it matters, and how it’s changing the way pastors lead. Rob shares how Beth helps him to set a vision, manage change, support staff and care for himself in the midst of the busy work of ministry. Tune in for honest reflections and practical insights about the importance of building healthy support systems to transform your leadership. 🎧 In this episode, we explore: What clergy coaching really looks like in the local church The difference between coaching, mentoring, and therapy How coaching helps pastors lead with clarity and confidence Why support systems matter for healthy ministry Encouragement for anyone serving in church leadership Timestamps: 0:00 What is clergy coaching? 7:16 Supporting Priests in Transition 11:11 Navigating New Seasons 15:16 Leading Well 17:30 Pastors Supporting One Another 22:14 Asking Hard Questions